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		<title>By: kamo</title>
		<link>http://thisjapaneselife.org/2012/08/08/japan-honne-tatemae-wacky/#comment-1788</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 09:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Like 100,000,000 hot dogs :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rYT0YvQ3hs]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like 100,000,000 hot dogs :)</p>
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		<title>By: owwls</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 14:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As an American who has been surrounded by non-American expats, I&#039;ve become a wee
Self-conscious about saying things are amazing when they are merely passable. That said, it&#039;s ingrained. :(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an American who has been surrounded by non-American expats, I&#8217;ve become a wee<br />
Self-conscious about saying things are amazing when they are merely passable. That said, it&#8217;s ingrained. :(</p>
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		<title>By: Orso Curioso</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 12:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m Japanese but I live in The Czech Republic and I must say that culturally, the Czechs have got a version of &quot;honne&quot; and &quot;tatemae&quot; which makes things a bit easier in dealing with their rather (collectively)difficult character. It also drives me mad cos one of the reasons I left Japan was to get away from this sort of &quot;circling round&quot; life. But when I went to study at uni in the USA, I found the American way of (fake) overly-enthusiastic pretend sincerity to be just as annoying and unbearable. 

On the other hand, this concept of honne and tatemae that I grew up with, has stood me in good stead under difficult situations whilst living in both the USA and in Europe. Depending on the country, but overall (very generally speaking), I find the European way to be the most palatable. Many Europeans from varying countries culturally have seemingly found a happy balance, IMO.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m Japanese but I live in The Czech Republic and I must say that culturally, the Czechs have got a version of &#8220;honne&#8221; and &#8220;tatemae&#8221; which makes things a bit easier in dealing with their rather (collectively)difficult character. It also drives me mad cos one of the reasons I left Japan was to get away from this sort of &#8220;circling round&#8221; life. But when I went to study at uni in the USA, I found the American way of (fake) overly-enthusiastic pretend sincerity to be just as annoying and unbearable. </p>
<p>On the other hand, this concept of honne and tatemae that I grew up with, has stood me in good stead under difficult situations whilst living in both the USA and in Europe. Depending on the country, but overall (very generally speaking), I find the European way to be the most palatable. Many Europeans from varying countries culturally have seemingly found a happy balance, IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: alpha1714</title>
		<link>http://thisjapaneselife.org/2012/08/08/japan-honne-tatemae-wacky/#comment-1756</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 01:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The real triumph of this piece isn&#039;t the stark assessment of the true Japanese cultural dynamic; it&#039;s the successful reconciliation of contempt for insincerity with cross-cultural understanding. It&#039;s all too easy to pass (sometimes not-so-)silent judgement on this kind of thing while we gaijin have the benefit of seeing it from the outside, but it takes real insight to appreciate why it makes some kind of sense in a peculiarly Japanese way. We may not like it, but we can at least allow it to function it it&#039;s own right while we write clever and snarky observations about it. Well done.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real triumph of this piece isn&#8217;t the stark assessment of the true Japanese cultural dynamic; it&#8217;s the successful reconciliation of contempt for insincerity with cross-cultural understanding. It&#8217;s all too easy to pass (sometimes not-so-)silent judgement on this kind of thing while we gaijin have the benefit of seeing it from the outside, but it takes real insight to appreciate why it makes some kind of sense in a peculiarly Japanese way. We may not like it, but we can at least allow it to function it it&#8217;s own right while we write clever and snarky observations about it. Well done.</p>
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		<title>By: Sophie</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Argh, this is such an interesting post and I want to say lots more than I have time for (gotta get to work and stare intently at some papers for eight hours). In sort, though, I wonder how you see the idea of the carnivalesque in relation to this? For example the complete letting go that happens at the nijikai when everyone is too drunk to stand and it&#039;s ok to call your boss a dick and then vomit on him ^_^;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Argh, this is such an interesting post and I want to say lots more than I have time for (gotta get to work and stare intently at some papers for eight hours). In sort, though, I wonder how you see the idea of the carnivalesque in relation to this? For example the complete letting go that happens at the nijikai when everyone is too drunk to stand and it&#8217;s ok to call your boss a dick and then vomit on him ^_^;</p>
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		<title>By: Ἀντισθένης</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ἀντισθένης]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 09:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kamo, besides the fact that smaller people get drunk more easily (it&#039;s a weight thing), &#039;alcohol flush&#039; is a true thing, as you know.  Not sure if it makes you feel as drunk as you look.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_flush_reaction

Also, did you know that the red-faced genetics in Japan predominate in N.Kyushu, through the Inland Sea to Kansai?  It&#039;s a Yamato-people thing, but don&#039;t tell those Japanese they flush like Koreans...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kamo, besides the fact that smaller people get drunk more easily (it&#8217;s a weight thing), &#8216;alcohol flush&#8217; is a true thing, as you know.  Not sure if it makes you feel as drunk as you look.  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_flush_reaction" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_flush_reaction</a></p>
<p>Also, did you know that the red-faced genetics in Japan predominate in N.Kyushu, through the Inland Sea to Kansai?  It&#8217;s a Yamato-people thing, but don&#8217;t tell those Japanese they flush like Koreans&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kamo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kamo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 09:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been asked a few times what Japan is famous for abroad. I&#039;m ashamed to say I&#039;ve always chickened out and said something like, &#039;Sushi, sumo, and samurai,&#039; which seems to keep everyone happy. The truth is, for many computer-literate Westeners under the age of 40, the answer would be, &#039;Surreal manga, hysterically cruel game-shows, and tentacle porn&#039;. Tatemae...

Many Japanese people seem to have an astonishingly low tolerance of alcohol. I&#039;ve heard that there&#039;s a genetic tendency to lack a key enzyme for metabolising the stuff. Could be true, but sounds like more nihonjinron garbage, to be honest. More likely is that those pissed-up salarymen know they&#039;re &#039;supposed&#039; to be drunk and having fun and are playing up to the expectations. Of course, this happens elsewhere (there&#039;s research on the social expectations of drink. People act drunk if it&#039;s expected despite not consuming alcohol. You can look it up, I&#039;m sure), but as ever it&#039;s taken to extremes over here.

Perhaps it&#039;s a measure of how long I&#039;ve been here, but a lot of the stuff on TV strikes me as just stupid, not mind-warpingly insane. Like that &#039;Yatta&#039; vid that did the rounds years ago. I saw the original transmission and just thought it was daft. Take it out of context though and you appreciate how truly odd it really is. Mind you, take a lot of stuff out of context and that&#039;ll be the case...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been asked a few times what Japan is famous for abroad. I&#8217;m ashamed to say I&#8217;ve always chickened out and said something like, &#8216;Sushi, sumo, and samurai,&#8217; which seems to keep everyone happy. The truth is, for many computer-literate Westeners under the age of 40, the answer would be, &#8216;Surreal manga, hysterically cruel game-shows, and tentacle porn&#8217;. Tatemae&#8230;</p>
<p>Many Japanese people seem to have an astonishingly low tolerance of alcohol. I&#8217;ve heard that there&#8217;s a genetic tendency to lack a key enzyme for metabolising the stuff. Could be true, but sounds like more nihonjinron garbage, to be honest. More likely is that those pissed-up salarymen know they&#8217;re &#8216;supposed&#8217; to be drunk and having fun and are playing up to the expectations. Of course, this happens elsewhere (there&#8217;s research on the social expectations of drink. People act drunk if it&#8217;s expected despite not consuming alcohol. You can look it up, I&#8217;m sure), but as ever it&#8217;s taken to extremes over here.</p>
<p>Perhaps it&#8217;s a measure of how long I&#8217;ve been here, but a lot of the stuff on TV strikes me as just stupid, not mind-warpingly insane. Like that &#8216;Yatta&#8217; vid that did the rounds years ago. I saw the original transmission and just thought it was daft. Take it out of context though and you appreciate how truly odd it really is. Mind you, take a lot of stuff out of context and that&#8217;ll be the case&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ἀντισθένης</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ἀντισθένης]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 02:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I have a darker emotional disposition. Not sharing in the collective embrace of surface appearances often leaves me feeling alienated and isolated.&quot;

Ah, a kindred soul.  I think we do a lot of what Japan does in N.America, too (I am Canadian); however, we spend a require more effort pretending our &#039;optimism&#039; is sincere.  Whereas the Japanese don&#039;t deign to challenge each other&#039;s sincerity, each clique or workplace in N.America is looking out to hang the skeptic.  Imagine Tom Cruise&#039;s clenched-smile mania, and you have the public face of N.America.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I have a darker emotional disposition. Not sharing in the collective embrace of surface appearances often leaves me feeling alienated and isolated.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ah, a kindred soul.  I think we do a lot of what Japan does in N.America, too (I am Canadian); however, we spend a require more effort pretending our &#8216;optimism&#8217; is sincere.  Whereas the Japanese don&#8217;t deign to challenge each other&#8217;s sincerity, each clique or workplace in N.America is looking out to hang the skeptic.  Imagine Tom Cruise&#8217;s clenched-smile mania, and you have the public face of N.America.</p>
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		<title>By: David @ Ogijima</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David @ Ogijima]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 16:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The first picture! It&#039;s my local train! (Kotoden in Kagawa Prefecture).
(that was the useless comment of the day, sorry :-) )]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first picture! It&#8217;s my local train! (Kotoden in Kagawa Prefecture).<br />
(that was the useless comment of the day, sorry :-) )</p>
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