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	<title>Comments on: On Complaining About Pizza in America</title>
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		<title>By: Korbin</title>
		<link>http://thisjapaneselife.org/2013/01/16/cultureshocksarcasm/#comment-3170</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jul 2013 02:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I’m a little late to the party, but figured I’d join the discussion regardless. 

I am very sorry that you were offended by the pizza conversation you overheard. Sarcasm is not the most PC form of humor and can’t be utilized in mixed company unless you like being perceived as a jackass. Still, I think in America people are given a bit more slack in terms of what they can say, and still be considered a nice person. Mostly, to be successful at utilizing sarcasm and not coming across as rude one needs to know their audience. You can’t be sarcastic to your boss, or your grandmother, well, not my grandmother at least.

Sarcasm is definitely my favorite form of comedy to employ. The thing I like to do is not so much passive aggressively complain about stuff, but instead say random, crazy, or morally inappropriate things with a straight face. It amuses me greatly when people try to figure out when I’m serious about something or joking (it’s usually 50, 50). Sarcasm would not be ruined for me if I visited Japan because I like to be purposefully misunderstood. That’s the joke, and I like being the only one who gets it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m a little late to the party, but figured I’d join the discussion regardless. </p>
<p>I am very sorry that you were offended by the pizza conversation you overheard. Sarcasm is not the most PC form of humor and can’t be utilized in mixed company unless you like being perceived as a jackass. Still, I think in America people are given a bit more slack in terms of what they can say, and still be considered a nice person. Mostly, to be successful at utilizing sarcasm and not coming across as rude one needs to know their audience. You can’t be sarcastic to your boss, or your grandmother, well, not my grandmother at least.</p>
<p>Sarcasm is definitely my favorite form of comedy to employ. The thing I like to do is not so much passive aggressively complain about stuff, but instead say random, crazy, or morally inappropriate things with a straight face. It amuses me greatly when people try to figure out when I’m serious about something or joking (it’s usually 50, 50). Sarcasm would not be ruined for me if I visited Japan because I like to be purposefully misunderstood. That’s the joke, and I like being the only one who gets it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lena</title>
		<link>http://thisjapaneselife.org/2013/01/16/cultureshocksarcasm/#comment-2877</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 11:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had reverse culture shock when I returned to America from Japan-and I had only been in Japan for two weeks! Everything became flip flopped for me in terms of polite behavior and I was dismayed at the rudeness I experienced all around me, all of the time. It was something I never noticed before I left. Your description of rage at what you were overhearing was exactly what I experienced for the first few weeks back!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had reverse culture shock when I returned to America from Japan-and I had only been in Japan for two weeks! Everything became flip flopped for me in terms of polite behavior and I was dismayed at the rudeness I experienced all around me, all of the time. It was something I never noticed before I left. Your description of rage at what you were overhearing was exactly what I experienced for the first few weeks back!</p>
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		<title>By: Archana</title>
		<link>http://thisjapaneselife.org/2013/01/16/cultureshocksarcasm/#comment-2658</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2013 03:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I noticed a difference between between americans who had just arrived in japan and those who had been there for 2-3 years. it&#039;s like americans realise parts of their personality they dont like and they start to change - something that would probably never have come about if they had stayed in america. Well travelled americans have a sense of maturity that is more acceptable globally than the obnoxious behaviour of those who havent felt humbled after leaving the country.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed a difference between between americans who had just arrived in japan and those who had been there for 2-3 years. it&#8217;s like americans realise parts of their personality they dont like and they start to change &#8211; something that would probably never have come about if they had stayed in america. Well travelled americans have a sense of maturity that is more acceptable globally than the obnoxious behaviour of those who havent felt humbled after leaving the country.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://thisjapaneselife.org/2013/01/16/cultureshocksarcasm/#comment-2247</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 10:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I completely agree with you about sarcasm. I can say I&#039;ve met some fairly sarcastic people in Japan -- I have a Japanese friend who always greets me with, &quot;I like your purple coat,&quot; even though I KNOW he thinks my coat is awful, haha. But, in general, I agree that sarcasm is not used nearly as much or in the same way in Japan as it is used in the US. 

I find this refreshing, because honestly, I sometimes have trouble picking up on sarcasm. Additionally, to me, most sarcasm is not particularly funny. The formula is usually just: find something you dislike/disapprove of + make a positive comment about it. Cleverly employed sarcasm or irony is a different story, but it is rare. The sarcasm I encounter mostly seems to be akin to dishonesty, a form of passive-aggressiveness, &quot;hiding&quot; negative feelings from others and maybe even oneself by using &quot;humor&quot;.

Still, I know it bothers some people who use sarcasm a lot and try to use it in Japanese only to be met with earnestness or confusion. To each his own, I suppose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with you about sarcasm. I can say I&#8217;ve met some fairly sarcastic people in Japan &#8212; I have a Japanese friend who always greets me with, &#8220;I like your purple coat,&#8221; even though I KNOW he thinks my coat is awful, haha. But, in general, I agree that sarcasm is not used nearly as much or in the same way in Japan as it is used in the US. </p>
<p>I find this refreshing, because honestly, I sometimes have trouble picking up on sarcasm. Additionally, to me, most sarcasm is not particularly funny. The formula is usually just: find something you dislike/disapprove of + make a positive comment about it. Cleverly employed sarcasm or irony is a different story, but it is rare. The sarcasm I encounter mostly seems to be akin to dishonesty, a form of passive-aggressiveness, &#8220;hiding&#8221; negative feelings from others and maybe even oneself by using &#8220;humor&#8221;.</p>
<p>Still, I know it bothers some people who use sarcasm a lot and try to use it in Japanese only to be met with earnestness or confusion. To each his own, I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: Shelli@How'sitgoingeh?</title>
		<link>http://thisjapaneselife.org/2013/01/16/cultureshocksarcasm/#comment-2238</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 02:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmmmmm, that&#039;s really interesting.  I&#039;m going to have to think on this post for a while.  I&#039;m a Japanese-American valley girl new to Canada.  I gripe all the time, &quot;Where is the sarcasm in Canada?!&quot;.  I haven&#039;t come across very many Canadians who have the snarky jibes that I am accustomed to in Los Angeles.  But yes, I agree it is a sort of mean spirited jesting.  Maybe I should be happy to get a break from such negative humor???  Hmmmmm...interesting point you&#039;ve brought up!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmmm, that&#8217;s really interesting.  I&#8217;m going to have to think on this post for a while.  I&#8217;m a Japanese-American valley girl new to Canada.  I gripe all the time, &#8220;Where is the sarcasm in Canada?!&#8221;.  I haven&#8217;t come across very many Canadians who have the snarky jibes that I am accustomed to in Los Angeles.  But yes, I agree it is a sort of mean spirited jesting.  Maybe I should be happy to get a break from such negative humor???  Hmmmmm&#8230;interesting point you&#8217;ve brought up!</p>
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		<title>By: Catspaw</title>
		<link>http://thisjapaneselife.org/2013/01/16/cultureshocksarcasm/#comment-2169</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dude, she&#039;s 90. Ripe is what &quot;they&quot; call them, that&#039;s their word. :o)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, she&#8217;s 90. Ripe is what &#8220;they&#8221; call them, that&#8217;s their word. :o)</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://thisjapaneselife.org/2013/01/16/cultureshocksarcasm/#comment-2168</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ha, Americans just speak more than most others. While Japanese think it, Americans say it out loud. Sarcasm really amounts to saying the truth euphemistically. I respect the fact that Americans are okay with saying &quot;what&#039;s wrong,&quot; but it has it&#039;s limits, and you found them.

However, I understand. The first day I was back from Italy I almost throttled a 90 year old woman complaining in the supermarket.... She couldn&#039;t find the ripe olives, and she kept reminding the sales clerk that they were on sale. She said it about 20 times before the clerk walked down an aisle grabbed them and gave them to her. Laziness is the one thing that I can&#039;t stand about Americans. Sarcasm can be witty, or at least get a point across. However, the inability to do things for oneself is an American&#039;s real vice. They give a half attempt and if it doesn&#039;t work they come marching to the person in charge complaining about how they couldn&#039;t find the &quot;ripe&quot; olives. I&#039;ve never wanted to beat someone more for saying &quot;ripe&quot; instead of &quot;black.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha, Americans just speak more than most others. While Japanese think it, Americans say it out loud. Sarcasm really amounts to saying the truth euphemistically. I respect the fact that Americans are okay with saying &#8220;what&#8217;s wrong,&#8221; but it has it&#8217;s limits, and you found them.</p>
<p>However, I understand. The first day I was back from Italy I almost throttled a 90 year old woman complaining in the supermarket&#8230;. She couldn&#8217;t find the ripe olives, and she kept reminding the sales clerk that they were on sale. She said it about 20 times before the clerk walked down an aisle grabbed them and gave them to her. Laziness is the one thing that I can&#8217;t stand about Americans. Sarcasm can be witty, or at least get a point across. However, the inability to do things for oneself is an American&#8217;s real vice. They give a half attempt and if it doesn&#8217;t work they come marching to the person in charge complaining about how they couldn&#8217;t find the &#8220;ripe&#8221; olives. I&#8217;ve never wanted to beat someone more for saying &#8220;ripe&#8221; instead of &#8220;black.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Catspaw</title>
		<link>http://thisjapaneselife.org/2013/01/16/cultureshocksarcasm/#comment-2107</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cheers, excellent piece. You have really brought some depth to behavioral habit and adaptation. 

Your comment on sarcasm also struck a chord in an important respect. Isn&#039;t an American sarcasm just another form of aggression? 

Interestingly you seem to suggest that the Japanese may not have an equivalent? That was surprising in that I hadn&#039;t thought about the possibility that an equivalent may not exist for some cultures. 

The aggression sarcasm encapsulates is one of the uglier habits of American communication and seems endemic in many exchanges. Well done. Truly enjoyable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers, excellent piece. You have really brought some depth to behavioral habit and adaptation. </p>
<p>Your comment on sarcasm also struck a chord in an important respect. Isn&#8217;t an American sarcasm just another form of aggression? </p>
<p>Interestingly you seem to suggest that the Japanese may not have an equivalent? That was surprising in that I hadn&#8217;t thought about the possibility that an equivalent may not exist for some cultures. </p>
<p>The aggression sarcasm encapsulates is one of the uglier habits of American communication and seems endemic in many exchanges. Well done. Truly enjoyable.</p>
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