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		<title>By: Mac</title>
		<link>http://thisjapaneselife.org/2013/03/06/mokusatsu-hiroshima-japan/#comment-3182</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jul 2013 20:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guarantee you didn&#039;t hear that from Chinese people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guarantee you didn&#8217;t hear that from Chinese people.</p>
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		<title>By: spartan2600</title>
		<link>http://thisjapaneselife.org/2013/03/06/mokusatsu-hiroshima-japan/#comment-2961</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2013 05:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Japanese didn&#039;t hide behind the language differences to shift blame for the bombing of Hiroshima/Nagasaki, this is merely an explanation for the bombing by Americans themselves, I think to shift the blame off of Americans. Regardless, I disagree with Owwls that the language difference had anything to do with the nuking of civilians. The US dropped the bombs to intimidate Moscow, and the world generally. The US already knew it was going to take over from Europe, especially Britain as the global hegemon. The bombs were dropped *because* it was a senseless act, the US wanted the world to know it could act like a wild dog. Its about building credibility, mafia-style. See the video I posted in the other comment for a full explanation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Japanese didn&#8217;t hide behind the language differences to shift blame for the bombing of Hiroshima/Nagasaki, this is merely an explanation for the bombing by Americans themselves, I think to shift the blame off of Americans. Regardless, I disagree with Owwls that the language difference had anything to do with the nuking of civilians. The US dropped the bombs to intimidate Moscow, and the world generally. The US already knew it was going to take over from Europe, especially Britain as the global hegemon. The bombs were dropped *because* it was a senseless act, the US wanted the world to know it could act like a wild dog. Its about building credibility, mafia-style. See the video I posted in the other comment for a full explanation.</p>
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		<title>By: owwls</title>
		<link>http://thisjapaneselife.org/2013/03/06/mokusatsu-hiroshima-japan/#comment-2959</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2013 04:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Truman wanted any excuse he had to drop it. The vast disparity between communication styles and expressions seemed to be the one he took.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truman wanted any excuse he had to drop it. The vast disparity between communication styles and expressions seemed to be the one he took.</p>
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		<title>By: spartan2600</title>
		<link>http://thisjapaneselife.org/2013/03/06/mokusatsu-hiroshima-japan/#comment-2958</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spartan2600]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2013 03:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wanted to take a long time to respond to cool off a little. As much as this one piece bothered me, I like your blog and enjoy reading it. I&#039;ve spent a combined 7 weeks in Japan in the course of 3 visits, and find your observations generally accurate. Your style of writing is especially entertaining.

That said; you admit that &quot;Truman wanted any excuse he had to drop it.&quot; Doesn&#039;t that contradict the idea that &quot;the blame [belongs] on the vast disparity between communication styles and expressions,&quot; which, even with the qualifications, is the gist of this blog post?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wanted to take a long time to respond to cool off a little. As much as this one piece bothered me, I like your blog and enjoy reading it. I&#8217;ve spent a combined 7 weeks in Japan in the course of 3 visits, and find your observations generally accurate. Your style of writing is especially entertaining.</p>
<p>That said; you admit that &#8220;Truman wanted any excuse he had to drop it.&#8221; Doesn&#8217;t that contradict the idea that &#8220;the blame [belongs] on the vast disparity between communication styles and expressions,&#8221; which, even with the qualifications, is the gist of this blog post?</p>
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		<title>By: Marion Montalbano</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marion Montalbano]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2013 03:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Japanese were not vague when they bombed Pearl they were assertive.  How convenient they reverted to becoming &quot;invisible&quot; when required to answer a serious question.  A ten day wait... hum...  
I was a young child when my family walked into my Aunts house for our regular Sunday visit to hear the news that we were now at war - a few years later my girl friends father was a commander on the ship Missouri  when  the Japanese were allowed to make an
unconditional surrender.  My story isn`t as long - but true.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Japanese were not vague when they bombed Pearl they were assertive.  How convenient they reverted to becoming &#8220;invisible&#8221; when required to answer a serious question.  A ten day wait&#8230; hum&#8230;<br />
I was a young child when my family walked into my Aunts house for our regular Sunday visit to hear the news that we were now at war &#8211; a few years later my girl friends father was a commander on the ship Missouri  when  the Japanese were allowed to make an<br />
unconditional surrender.  My story isn`t as long &#8211; but true.</p>
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		<title>By: Archana</title>
		<link>http://thisjapaneselife.org/2013/03/06/mokusatsu-hiroshima-japan/#comment-2648</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Archana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wow - I&#039;m actually proud to say that, despite not learning much about the atomic bomb and the effects on the Japanese people, we did learn about the miscommunication - because history is supposed to be taught as a reminder of what is a good idea and what isn&#039;t. We learned about how cultural understandings and clear communications were important from this debacle.

But I disagree with the fact that it was a miscommunication. America fired because it wasn&#039;t sure but it didnt want to take any chances and also, they really wanted to show the world what they were capable of. But there is no excuse for this level of devastation. They should have sent a final communication to say what the devastation would be if they didn&#039;t surrender and then - if the reply was not clear - proceed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow &#8211; I&#8217;m actually proud to say that, despite not learning much about the atomic bomb and the effects on the Japanese people, we did learn about the miscommunication &#8211; because history is supposed to be taught as a reminder of what is a good idea and what isn&#8217;t. We learned about how cultural understandings and clear communications were important from this debacle.</p>
<p>But I disagree with the fact that it was a miscommunication. America fired because it wasn&#8217;t sure but it didnt want to take any chances and also, they really wanted to show the world what they were capable of. But there is no excuse for this level of devastation. They should have sent a final communication to say what the devastation would be if they didn&#8217;t surrender and then &#8211; if the reply was not clear &#8211; proceed.</p>
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		<title>By: owwls</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2013 11:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you are reacting a bit strongly. I don&#039;t place the blame on &quot;orientals&quot; being &quot;inscrutable,&quot; I place the blame on the vast disparity between communication styles and expressions - and on the fact that American translators ignored shades of meanings and subtext. I&#039;m careful to point out that &lt;em&gt;as an American&lt;/em&gt;, the Japanese hesitancy to express ideas clearly is frustrating, but I am also quick to point out the American capacity to jump to conclusions rather than tolerating ambiguity. 

As for your claim that &quot;a few words Suzuki gave to reporters&quot; couldn&#039;t have triggered the confusion in American diplomatic circles, read the NSA paper I link to in the text. Key words here are that yeah, Truman wanted any excuse he had to drop it. Suzuki was PM, which isn&#039;t just any other government official. The military needed an answer, didn&#039;t hear one, then saw this - it&#039;s certainly not the only reason, but, at least according to that paper, it was a major sign that the Japanese had rejected the offer.

Anyway, I&#039;m getting a bit tired of your endless accusations that I am somehow an enemy of the Japanese people, or whatever, this is the second time you&#039;ve accused me of saying something I&#039;m not saying, and both times you&#039;ve assumed I was taking a position that was clearly idiotic. If you&#039;re going to throw that kind of stuff around at least make sure you look for the counter-evidence in the post. Both times I&#039;ve said the opposite of what you seem to think I&#039;ve said.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are reacting a bit strongly. I don&#8217;t place the blame on &#8220;orientals&#8221; being &#8220;inscrutable,&#8221; I place the blame on the vast disparity between communication styles and expressions &#8211; and on the fact that American translators ignored shades of meanings and subtext. I&#8217;m careful to point out that <em>as an American</em>, the Japanese hesitancy to express ideas clearly is frustrating, but I am also quick to point out the American capacity to jump to conclusions rather than tolerating ambiguity. </p>
<p>As for your claim that &#8220;a few words Suzuki gave to reporters&#8221; couldn&#8217;t have triggered the confusion in American diplomatic circles, read the NSA paper I link to in the text. Key words here are that yeah, Truman wanted any excuse he had to drop it. Suzuki was PM, which isn&#8217;t just any other government official. The military needed an answer, didn&#8217;t hear one, then saw this &#8211; it&#8217;s certainly not the only reason, but, at least according to that paper, it was a major sign that the Japanese had rejected the offer.</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m getting a bit tired of your endless accusations that I am somehow an enemy of the Japanese people, or whatever, this is the second time you&#8217;ve accused me of saying something I&#8217;m not saying, and both times you&#8217;ve assumed I was taking a position that was clearly idiotic. If you&#8217;re going to throw that kind of stuff around at least make sure you look for the counter-evidence in the post. Both times I&#8217;ve said the opposite of what you seem to think I&#8217;ve said.</p>
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		<title>By: spartan2600</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2013 04:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;since the fall of the USSR, their version (and also collaborated from some Japanese sources) is that the invasion of Manchuria was pivotal.&quot;

That was also the conclusion of the US intelligence services and Truman himself! This issue is discussed by Historian at American University in Washington DC Peter Kuznickat at 11:16 of the below video, although the whole thing is worth watching:

http://youtu.be/macaR0ZsxO0]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;since the fall of the USSR, their version (and also collaborated from some Japanese sources) is that the invasion of Manchuria was pivotal.&#8221;</p>
<p>That was also the conclusion of the US intelligence services and Truman himself! This issue is discussed by Historian at American University in Washington DC Peter Kuznickat at 11:16 of the below video, although the whole thing is worth watching:</p>
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		<title>By: spartan2600</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spartan2600]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2013 03:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is an appalling post.

&quot;The problem was inherent to the Japanese language, where words are secondary to context.&quot;

&quot;“acting on guesses” can end with the annihilation of cities.&quot;

So the cause of the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which killed up to a quarter million innocent Japanese women, men, and children, was their own fault.

It is now apparent that the way you use &quot;read the air&quot; is a new version of the old idea and slur &quot;inscrutable oriental.&quot; Japanese isn&#039;t the only language that depends on context to a large degree, English does too. In fact, scholars and statesmen of Aramaic languages have long described the English language, the language of many of their colonizers, as vague and open to multiple interpretations (I don&#039;t know any Aramaic language, but this point was referenced in the final chapter of the seminal book Orientalism by Edward Said- a book Owwls ought to read).

Also, its ridiculous to presume that merely a few words Suzuki gave in an interview with reporters is something that made Truman&#039;s choice inevitable. Truman&#039;s Chief of Staff Admiral Leahy and 6 of 7 5-star generals and admirals who won their 5th star during the war were adamantly against the use of the bomb, including Eisenhower (as explained in the video below). Even MacArthur was against the bomb, he believed the Japanese would&#039;ve surrendered in May. You, Owwls, paint a picture of a wild-eyed, murderously suicidal nation, but obviously much of those with a full understanding at the time didn&#039;t have the same image of Japan.

This is a touchy subject, and one that it is possible to discuss reasonably and productively, but blaming the nuclear bombs on a supposed failure of the Japanese language is beyond the pale.

Professor of history at American University Peter Kuznick discusses the bombing in a interview today. In the interview it is made clear from the context and motivations out of which Truman made the decision to drop the atomic bombs that the Japanese language isn&#039;t to blame for the American killing of 250,000 civilians.

http://youtu.be/macaR0ZsxO0]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an appalling post.</p>
<p>&#8220;The problem was inherent to the Japanese language, where words are secondary to context.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;“acting on guesses” can end with the annihilation of cities.&#8221;</p>
<p>So the cause of the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which killed up to a quarter million innocent Japanese women, men, and children, was their own fault.</p>
<p>It is now apparent that the way you use &#8220;read the air&#8221; is a new version of the old idea and slur &#8220;inscrutable oriental.&#8221; Japanese isn&#8217;t the only language that depends on context to a large degree, English does too. In fact, scholars and statesmen of Aramaic languages have long described the English language, the language of many of their colonizers, as vague and open to multiple interpretations (I don&#8217;t know any Aramaic language, but this point was referenced in the final chapter of the seminal book Orientalism by Edward Said- a book Owwls ought to read).</p>
<p>Also, its ridiculous to presume that merely a few words Suzuki gave in an interview with reporters is something that made Truman&#8217;s choice inevitable. Truman&#8217;s Chief of Staff Admiral Leahy and 6 of 7 5-star generals and admirals who won their 5th star during the war were adamantly against the use of the bomb, including Eisenhower (as explained in the video below). Even MacArthur was against the bomb, he believed the Japanese would&#8217;ve surrendered in May. You, Owwls, paint a picture of a wild-eyed, murderously suicidal nation, but obviously much of those with a full understanding at the time didn&#8217;t have the same image of Japan.</p>
<p>This is a touchy subject, and one that it is possible to discuss reasonably and productively, but blaming the nuclear bombs on a supposed failure of the Japanese language is beyond the pale.</p>
<p>Professor of history at American University Peter Kuznick discusses the bombing in a interview today. In the interview it is made clear from the context and motivations out of which Truman made the decision to drop the atomic bombs that the Japanese language isn&#8217;t to blame for the American killing of 250,000 civilians.</p>
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		<title>By: bonesofculture</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2013 17:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve faced the same &quot;divided by a common language&quot; problems. Raised by Canadian parents who were born early enough to remember the pre-WWII British Empire, I am given to understatement. This way of speaking only got worse when I studied the Indonesian language and culture, which has some similar social rules. In Indonesian, for example, one generally says &quot;less than good&quot; (kurang baik) rather than &quot;bad&quot; (jelek) unless there is a really high social-status difference, and the speaker is on top.

Speaking in such a &quot;soft&quot; way makes a person appear weak and wishy-washy to Americans. The preference in the U.S. seems to be for emotional hyperbole. A reserved &quot;This soup is less-than-good&quot; can, can be accurately portrayed in American English with the sentence &quot;This is the worst soup I&#039;ve ever had in my life!&quot;

Some non-Americans (both Japanese and English) might hear &quot;This is the worst soup I&#039;ve ever had in my life!&quot; and think that the American either has complete lack of awareness of social status or is implying a belief that he is far, far above the people around him in status. This is probably one cause of the &quot;Americans are arrogant&quot; stereotype.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve faced the same &#8220;divided by a common language&#8221; problems. Raised by Canadian parents who were born early enough to remember the pre-WWII British Empire, I am given to understatement. This way of speaking only got worse when I studied the Indonesian language and culture, which has some similar social rules. In Indonesian, for example, one generally says &#8220;less than good&#8221; (kurang baik) rather than &#8220;bad&#8221; (jelek) unless there is a really high social-status difference, and the speaker is on top.</p>
<p>Speaking in such a &#8220;soft&#8221; way makes a person appear weak and wishy-washy to Americans. The preference in the U.S. seems to be for emotional hyperbole. A reserved &#8220;This soup is less-than-good&#8221; can, can be accurately portrayed in American English with the sentence &#8220;This is the worst soup I&#8217;ve ever had in my life!&#8221;</p>
<p>Some non-Americans (both Japanese and English) might hear &#8220;This is the worst soup I&#8217;ve ever had in my life!&#8221; and think that the American either has complete lack of awareness of social status or is implying a belief that he is far, far above the people around him in status. This is probably one cause of the &#8220;Americans are arrogant&#8221; stereotype.</p>
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