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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://thisjapaneselife.org/2013/04/25/school-lunch-japan-kyuushoku/#comment-2654</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2013 18:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As an educator for sixteen years in the U.S.who has been blessed with opportunities both to observe and to teach a few lessons in Japanese junior and senior high schools, I really appreciate your insights. Yes, I can see that the contrasts in philosophies of education result in two different sets of values and abilities. At the same time, I don&#039;t think I was premature in jumping to the conclusion that kids on either side of the Pacific bring the same sets of basic human personality characteristics to the table. It&#039;s fascinating, if not somewhat sobering, to see how much the educational system can shape raw human personality types into people who exhibit markedly different behavior. Thanks for your thesis.  It&#039;s very thought provoking!

Gary
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an educator for sixteen years in the U.S.who has been blessed with opportunities both to observe and to teach a few lessons in Japanese junior and senior high schools, I really appreciate your insights. Yes, I can see that the contrasts in philosophies of education result in two different sets of values and abilities. At the same time, I don&#8217;t think I was premature in jumping to the conclusion that kids on either side of the Pacific bring the same sets of basic human personality characteristics to the table. It&#8217;s fascinating, if not somewhat sobering, to see how much the educational system can shape raw human personality types into people who exhibit markedly different behavior. Thanks for your thesis.  It&#8217;s very thought provoking!</p>
<p>Gary<br />
sumojoesays.com</p>
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		<title>By: wombatarama</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wombatarama]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2013 22:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have nothing intelligent to add, I just wanted to say that this was fascinating (and thank you for slogging through that thesis to write it, maybe it&#039;s been a long day but I gave up after two pages). And in contrast with the last commenter, I think it&#039;s just as insightful about American schooling as about Japanese.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have nothing intelligent to add, I just wanted to say that this was fascinating (and thank you for slogging through that thesis to write it, maybe it&#8217;s been a long day but I gave up after two pages). And in contrast with the last commenter, I think it&#8217;s just as insightful about American schooling as about Japanese.</p>
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		<title>By: owwls</title>
		<link>http://thisjapaneselife.org/2013/04/25/school-lunch-japan-kyuushoku/#comment-2634</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eh, I can&#039;t win. I&#039;m either a racist &quot;orientalist&quot; or a self-hating American, haha. 

I get what you&#039;re saying, and kudos for keeping me on my toes about generalizations. But my statement about American middle schools being the &quot;trial by fire where all the worst aspects of American society is forged&quot; relates to my statement in part one: American Middle Schools are an unguided melee of children given far too much free time and not enough gentle supervision. The result is that a bunch of kids, just as they are constructing their own identities, are constantly being torn down by others, and learn that the way to build yourself up is to deflect from yourself (or tear others down). This fosters a terrible sense of insecurity that manifests itself in my least favorite adult behaviors; so often I see some grown man acting like he&#039;s in middle school. 

This is not to say I disagree with you; the political conventions are, in my opinion, no different than the bullies fighting the nerds (you can assign the role to whichever parties you like). It all goes up to getting wedgies in middle school, man. I promise!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh, I can&#8217;t win. I&#8217;m either a racist &#8220;orientalist&#8221; or a self-hating American, haha. </p>
<p>I get what you&#8217;re saying, and kudos for keeping me on my toes about generalizations. But my statement about American middle schools being the &#8220;trial by fire where all the worst aspects of American society is forged&#8221; relates to my statement in part one: American Middle Schools are an unguided melee of children given far too much free time and not enough gentle supervision. The result is that a bunch of kids, just as they are constructing their own identities, are constantly being torn down by others, and learn that the way to build yourself up is to deflect from yourself (or tear others down). This fosters a terrible sense of insecurity that manifests itself in my least favorite adult behaviors; so often I see some grown man acting like he&#8217;s in middle school. </p>
<p>This is not to say I disagree with you; the political conventions are, in my opinion, no different than the bullies fighting the nerds (you can assign the role to whichever parties you like). It all goes up to getting wedgies in middle school, man. I promise!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I enjoy your articles -- this miniseries being no exception, it&#039;s very interesting! -- the inconsistency here is distracting.

Regarding Japanese behavior: &quot;...let’s not universalize this outside of an educational context...&quot;

Followed by immediately, in regard to American middle school: &quot;...a trial by fire where all the worst aspects of American society is forged.&quot;

From this it seems like you probably had about as horrendous an experience in middle school as I did; there&#039;s not much other reason for this bit of hyperbole.  Normally I&#039;d just smile at the overstatement and push down some nasty memories, but in this case it comes hot on the heels of an (admirable and appropriate) attempt at keeping the commentary in perspective.

Aside from being inaccurate*, it&#039;s an unbalanced and unnecessary dig that doesn&#039;t really help frame the information you&#039;re presenting.

All that said, thanks for presenting this, particularly regarding the Ministry of Education&#039;s positions and the conundrums faced by both students and teachers.  It seems like an interesting approach with (like anything else) mixed results, and it gels very well with what little Japanese culture I&#039;ve actually been exposed to.

* All the worst aspects of American society are actually floating around in the interpersonal ether until the major political election conventions come up every four years, during which the forging and re-forging truly takes place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I enjoy your articles &#8212; this miniseries being no exception, it&#8217;s very interesting! &#8212; the inconsistency here is distracting.</p>
<p>Regarding Japanese behavior: &#8220;&#8230;let’s not universalize this outside of an educational context&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Followed by immediately, in regard to American middle school: &#8220;&#8230;a trial by fire where all the worst aspects of American society is forged.&#8221;</p>
<p>From this it seems like you probably had about as horrendous an experience in middle school as I did; there&#8217;s not much other reason for this bit of hyperbole.  Normally I&#8217;d just smile at the overstatement and push down some nasty memories, but in this case it comes hot on the heels of an (admirable and appropriate) attempt at keeping the commentary in perspective.</p>
<p>Aside from being inaccurate*, it&#8217;s an unbalanced and unnecessary dig that doesn&#8217;t really help frame the information you&#8217;re presenting.</p>
<p>All that said, thanks for presenting this, particularly regarding the Ministry of Education&#8217;s positions and the conundrums faced by both students and teachers.  It seems like an interesting approach with (like anything else) mixed results, and it gels very well with what little Japanese culture I&#8217;ve actually been exposed to.</p>
<p>* All the worst aspects of American society are actually floating around in the interpersonal ether until the major political election conventions come up every four years, during which the forging and re-forging truly takes place.</p>
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		<title>By: owwls</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2013 13:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks! That means a lot. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks! That means a lot. :)</p>
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		<title>By: On Eating School Lunch in Japan, Part 1 &#124; This Japanese Life. &#124; 生命を外面九天です</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2013 13:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Locohama</title>
		<link>http://thisjapaneselife.org/2013/04/25/school-lunch-japan-kyuushoku/#comment-2629</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Locohama]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2013 13:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NIce Job again!! becoming one of my favorite blogs (-;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NIce Job again!! becoming one of my favorite blogs (-;</p>
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